The “Difficult Behavior” Conversation Schools Need: Safety, Structure & Relationship | John Vergara


What if we stopped labeling kids as “difficult”… and got serious about what difficult behavior is communicating?

Karen Mayer Cunningham sits down with John Vergara (aka The Difficult Student) — an assistant principal over special education and a leader known for practical, relationship-driven strategies that protect learning for every student in the classroom.

This episode is packed with real-world guidance for teachers, school leaders, parents, and advocates who want structure and compassion — without relying on reward charts, token systems, or empty “just build relationships” advice.

✅ In This Episode
The difference between “difficult students” vs. “students with difficult behavior”
The classroom foundation: safety → love → self-esteem
How routines and procedures create safety (not punishment)
Teaching regulation and skills instead of punishing unmet skills
Why inclusion can work — when it’s supported
Mindset shifts for teachers navigating toxic or unsupported environments

Links + Resources
✅ Join The Academy (Skool Community): https://www.skool.com/special-education-academy/about
✅ Get Karen’s book The Epic IEP (official link): https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1637635125?tag=simonsayscom

Connect with John Vergara
Instagram / TikTok: @thedifficultstudent
Podcast: The Difficult Student Podcast (Spotify / Apple / YouTube)

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“When we get it right for the child, we get it right for everybody.” — Karen Mayer Cunningham

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